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At first I hated the comment system. You couldn't link to them, there were lots of problems with some comments not displaying, navigating through lots of comments was painful, etc. As with most things, Wikia has slowly improved the system so that I don't hate it as much. I'm more neutral. It still has problems, but is much better for users who don't want to learn wikitext (which is sad, but it is common).

What I would still really like to see is a way for non-admins to tag comments for deletion. Comments are a great way for spammers to get stuff on your wiki that lives on until an admin notices it and deletes it. Is there something else that can be done? -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jul 2011 12:31 PM Pacific

Wouldn't the simplest solution just be to throw a delete tag in a reply? Just put {{Delete|above comment is x}}. The same is done with blog comments.--GodPray  19:51,7/31/2011 
Then when an admin deletes the original comment, the reply will go to if I'm correct. --BobNewbie ∞(Talk)∞ 19:52, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
It's an inelegant solution, but it's probably the best we've got. This is the worst thing about article comments, it's a horrible mess that takes power away from users, and requires admins to do more work. I'd encourage admins to remove them from their wiki and use talk pages, the small learning curve there is needs to be learnt anyway, and they don't have any of the problems of Article Comments -- RandomTime 20:05, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
One way to make it more "elegant" would be to have {{#ifeq: {{NAMESPACE}}|User blog comment|whatever in it so it's shrunk down whenever it's in a comment. So it would say something like An above comment has been marked for deletion because: in a petite little box, instead of a huge one. —Airhogs777 WCB WS 21:21, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
I'd prefer a voting system for comments like most sites have, so users could down vote comments and they would hide when below a certain threshold, but a report comment checkbox or something would also be good.
The problem with expecting users to put a delete or some other template in a reply expects them to know wikitext and the correct template to use and the comment system already presumes they don't know how to do that. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jul 2011 3:20 PM Pacific
Which is why Randomtime's suggestion is the best: don't use article comments.  Monchoman45  Talk  Contribs  Skystone  22:23,7/31/2011 
As much as I'd like to agree, that suggestion is like saying the best improvement you can make to the new editor is to not use it. Unhelpful. I respect your opinion Moncho, but that didn't help. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 31 Jul 2011 4:00 PM Pacific
Actually, Fandyllic, it is good advice. Unlike the new editor, with comments we have a choice. We can simply not turn on comments on our wikis and force people to use talkpages. (Be sure that the talk links for the blog and forum namespaces are activated.) By doing so, we eliminate all the problems that occur with comments. With the new editor, we have to use it; with the comments, we can turn it off. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 15:59, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
Well, that's like someone asking how do I make my bicycle stop wobbling and getting the answer, "just walk!" -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2 Aug 2011 4:43 PM Pacific
That analogy would imply that article comments aren't as efficient as talk pages. It'd be more accurate to tell them to use a car.  Monchoman45  Talk  Contribs  Skystone  23:46,8/2/2011 
^ -- RandomTime 23:47, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
I hope Monch, that you mean that comments are the bike, and talkpages are the car! SmileySpikeToronto 04:46, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
This is a good topic. I also didn't like the comments feature at first because it was wiki-ly and it didn't look that good. It made spam and vandalism very permeable and as the above said, you couldn't link to them and you didn't know when one or two were added. ssorceniviD 12:57, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

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