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Since Staff simply don't understand the sheer number of us who do not want Message Wall to replace talkpages, I've set up this page to show them just how many of their users are against the change. This isn't a vote, and it's not really a petition. It's merely a list of users who don't (or do) want this feature to replace talkpages.

Simply sign your name in the appropriate section to show your opinion. Only leave comments in the comment section, as it just makes the list messy otherwise.

   ǝsʞpɐןǝ  (message wall)  15:32, 27/09/2011

I don't like Message Wall and don't want it to replace user talkpages

  1. Though these never work and staff will just ignore this --GodPray  15:36,9/27/2011 
  2. Since when we're we Facebook? --Tama63 15:38, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  3. 1358 (Talk) 15:40, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  4. MasterFred 15:50, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Futility: or The Wreck of the Titan. {{SUBST:User:Dangerdan97/Sig}} 15:55, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  6. We need to end the madness now. We are the users! We have the power only when we join together! So who's with me?!? ~ Jason Yelloweagle ~
  7. The staff needs to listen, and so far they are failing to do so. This feature will send Wikia down a path of no return and it needs to end now. Lancer1289 16:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  8. NaruHina Talk 16:15, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Ricizubi16:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC) (maybe 1 or 2 things from it, but nothing more)
  10. Master Jonathan (Jedi Council Chambers) 16:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  11. NayayenTALK 16:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Per all. What is this I don't even. N7 [T|C] 16:32, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Gulomi Jomesh 16:33, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  14. User:Exiledjedi 16:35, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  15. For the record, Wookieepedia's most one-sided Consensus Track to date took a week to get to 36-to-1. This one has reached 31-to-0 in a day. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 16:37, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Per n7 {{SUBST:Sig/Fluttershy FTW}} 16:38, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  17. --RoseGuiThanks rose (talk here) 16:43, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  18. I need a name (Complain here) 16:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  19. Raven's wing 16:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  20. It honestly needs to be realised that adding something which the vast majority of the community are against is pretty much saying that the community's opinions are worthless. GG (talk) 16:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  21. If it isn't broken, don't fix it. JPanzerj 16:46, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  22. --Zeist Antilles flimsiplast 16:46, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  23. --Bleeh(talk) (blog) 16:47, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Per Panzer, it is easy to work with now. - Crazy Sam10 Talk PollFile:ShadowAttackSmallAni.gif 16:48, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  25.  Crimsonnavy   C  17:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  26. I am not pleased with having to be forced to use a social networking site-esque user talk model. It should stay just as it is. And I don't think we need to test this to see what it's like, a lot of us use facebook and blogs on Wikia, this is a mix of the two, not that either are bad, but the mix does not belong on user talk pages. --Callofduty4 17:05, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  27. --Bob 17:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  28. Highestbounty123 17:26, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  29. This defeats the purpose of a WIKI. This is not Facebook. It's a WIKI. What Staff don't see is that 99.7% hate this godawful feature and will refuse to use it. This means when it does get implemented, communication between users will cease ENTIRELY. Total chaos across the whole of Wikia. And when that happens, I'll be there to remind them "I told you so." Styracosaurus Rider (Speak to the Rider, your Lord and Master) {Look upon my servants} 17:28, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  30. .Seshat. 17:28, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  31. 1NF3RNO 17:29, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Cheesedude 17:32, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  33. It doesn't look like a good idea. HolbenilordTalk 17:34, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  34.  Monchoman45  Talk  Contribs  Skystone  17:33,9/27/2011 
  35. leviathan_89 17:34, 27 September, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Only with the hope, and with the mere hope, I hope that this is an optional application, ¿whats happening, wikia has realizing secret relations with Facebook?Syluxen Metroidover/Wikisimpsons/Wikidex/Ace Attorney/Digimon
  37. We're not Facebook. We're encyclopedias of information. But apparently that has long been forgotten by the staff. Ten Tailed Fox (Talk with me) 17:36, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  39. Looks like my new talk page shall be my userpage. Signature5.pngSignature5Last.png 18:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  40. Smuff[The cake is a lie] 18:07, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  41. Smithing (talk | contribs) 18:10, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  42. Why doesn't Wikia understand what wikis are? They are online encyclopedias, not forums, not mirror sites of Facebook... ajr 18:14, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  43. IT MUST HAPPEN! THE MESSAGE WALL MUST GO! IT MUST BE EXTERMINATED! (sorry, I like daleks). Toothless100 - Talk to me 18:51, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  44. --Shade 18:56, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  45. Please make it optional at least. Ciencia Al Poder (talk) -WikiDex 18:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  46. -- Talk pages are lovelier. DanPin (Talk) 19:05, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  47. Its not hard to use talk pages, Oasis or Monobook, so why would we change it? DrkDragonz66  Talk  Contribs  Call of Duty   19:06, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  48. This is not Facebook, this is wikia; and for that reason, I will very much dislike this to be added. Agent Swipe(talk)
  49. This is a wiki farm, not a social network. GoodwoodTalk| My Darthipedia55 Edits 19:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  50. I have a facebook account. and it's not Wikia.--Gilderien Talk|Contribs 19:38, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  51. The cons outweigh the pros. Armageddon11 19:45, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  52. MLG (talk) - 19:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  53. I can't see any benefit born of this change. If it was optional, it would have a far better reception. -Henryacores^ 19:49, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  54. There are a couple of interesting ideas in it, but they are mere specks against the vastness of the negatives... and that's before we add in the fact that it's being shoved down our throats as usual, and is the next step in the Facebookisation of Wikia -- Sorceror Nobody 19:55, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  55. This may be the stupidest and worst idea Wikia may ever have made. DaRanger (Talk ~ Contribs) 19:59 ~ 9/27/2011
  56. Be time to go elsewere this time -   BulldozerD11   talk    contribs    email  
  57. Ugh i don't want wikia to look like a social network. Thanks to the talk pages i learn how to edit...sometimes. :-) Alex9400 :-) 20:07, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  58.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   20:07, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  59. Wikia is not a social networking site. ~ CD-TDA (talk) 20:28, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  60. Sunderland06 (talk) 20:34, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  61. This isn't Facebook, and never will be. Kelsey     20:43, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  62. Cpl.Bohater 20:45, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  63. Uknownada 20:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  64. {{SUBST:User:Ryuzakiforever/Sign}} 21:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  65. Primmslimshady 21:04, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  66. Because if I just sit idly by, I can't complain about this later. Hugs 20px "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
  67. I have tolerated many things, this shall not be one of them Gothic Neko :3 talk 21:08, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  68. This is the most ridiculous pile of social networking crap I have seen for a while and this should not be Wikia's priority. Listen to your community for crying out loud. --Cartman!Talk!
  69. Agreed with Cartman. --an0my(talk) 21:11, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  70. The system works. Replacing i is unnecessary and disruptive. Plus, I just don't like how it would look too much like, uh, Facebook. Corellian Premier20pxAll along the watchtower 21:37, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  71. Bad idea.--144PA 21:45, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  72. ~ MTDM doesn't have a signature template. 21:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  73. No 'wall' or socializing tools, this isnt a facebook, this is a wikipedia.--Mylittlewut 22:21, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  74. I'm all for chat and user page but there is just too far, this is a Wiki NOT a stereotypical Social Networking site Even In Death May You Be Triumphant - Miss Nicolle 22:31, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  75. No Wall, the others have pretty much summed up my reasons against it. Richie9999 22:34, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  76. We will almost certainly be ignored, but this cannot happen to Wikia. Please listen, staff. Please. (Not that you will). VarkanaxTalk  00:44,10/5/2011 
  77. SimAnt 22:53, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  78. ђ tคlк 23:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  79. Honeestly, I feel like throwing a brush at the computer I'm so mad.Aangzula 23:24, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  80. That's just waste of time if we love to make a custom Talk Page - making it our own style. If change to that bored Message Wall; it's just like neat, straight private school uniform and dorm. --FredCat 00:08, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  81. This just brings in dumb users. Many people enjoy having signatures and talk pages, and now they can't send odd little bits of code that make cools text boxes to each other.BobaFett2 (talk) 00:12, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  82. No. We're well aware of what's good for an encyclopedic interface, and this is not it. We're not using a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality here; we're using a "if it ain't broke don't break it" mentality. Chiafriend12 00:13, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  83. Seireitou-shishō File:Seireitou's signature picture.jpg (My True Identity | Talk to Me :3) 00:26, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  84. Another petition. I guess I go here, even though they don't work. —Airhogs777 WCB WS 00:33, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  85. Kagimizu-Seeya 'round
  86. Silver Glaceon (TalkContribs)
  87. Tails6000 (I WAS FROZEN TODAY!) 00:41, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  88. If this fails, I'm gonna cry. WrathOfTheNerd9000 00:44, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  89. Hikaruyami-having fun* 00:48, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  90. Even though I know Wikia's staff is unable to acknowledge their own community, I'll still have my hopes. This is a site for wikis, not social networking. Shadowmaster (Contribs) 00:53, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  91. --Recgameboy | "Always baked, never fried." 80px 00:56, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  92. GOD NO. ~J97
  93. I am not interested in wikia modeling a social network site. C'mon please, let's keep this edit-oriented and encyclopedia-like. Vulmen 01:07, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  94. We need a Wiki, not a Facebook. A Light Shining in the Darkness - Talk 01:09, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  95. Dcasawaang1 (talk) 01:12, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  96. Kate the pawsome wolf Leave me a message anytime! 01:21, September 28, 2011 (UTC) At least make this an option. Most people don't like the idea anyways.
  97. SFH 01:24, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  98. I like the wiki's the way the are, if you want to do this, at least give the wiki a choice as to accept it or not. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 01:36, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  99. Mckrongs 01:37, September 28, 2011 (UTC) So apparently, an Admin proclaims everyone on this list with me is an idiot.
  100. Karohalva 01:52, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  101. I came to wikia to write stories, share characters, and view others. NOT to belong to another social network! -Echo 1, Custom Bionicle Wiki and Halo Fanon user.
  102. AvatarRokusGhost 01:56, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  103. Im not trying to be a conservative but want this change Powerfullest 01:59, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  104. NO. ODST! 02:04, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  105. Disgusting. --Rayous 02:18, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  106. --Ryushu the Cat
  107. Balitant 02:26, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  108. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:15, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  109. Why must Wikia keep ruining what it is, by trying to copy what it is not? jSarek 03:21, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  110. Stygmata Wikia should learn to listen to the editors and not go where the money seems to be >.>
  111. Rainlegs
  112. Rainwillow
  113. Matthew2602 (talk) 04:35, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  114. sig not working... we dont need more avatar and less signature....
  115. --So close but yet so far... from the bacon 05:58, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  116. Hell, if I am not here, where in the bloody hell am I going to be??? Mand'alor Skyobiliviator The Devastator 06:12, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  117. Wikia, you are in violation of WP:NOT. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:29, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  118. Cavalier One(Talk) 07:51, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  119. Please, will you bother to read this? Nikel Talk 09:00, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  120. QuiGonJinn(Talk) 13:10, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  121. Gaz Talk 13:15, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  122. ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 13:26, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  123. {{SUBST:User:BionicleKid/Signature}} 14:01, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  124. OLIOSTER (talk) 14:22, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  125. I cannot and will not allow changes to be implemented in ANY scenario when it is not being ethically approached. This proposal better be shut down for good. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 14:48, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  126. MetalDharak. 15:02, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  127. Hockeyben  15:02, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  128. Not a social network; things are fine as they are; Wikia cares more about revenue than its community, which is why it makes money in the first place; Wikia doesn't give a shit what the community thinks, and treats it like shit; yadda yadda, I could go on. --Athena32 (Talk | Contribs) 15:08, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  129. Just sucks. |_Andronikos Leventis Talk 15:09, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  130. I highly doubt Soviet Wikia will ever listen to its community, but hey. It's my opinion and I'm going to show it. I am in this world, but not of it.
  131. Though it would take several thousand of us, I will throw my one drop into the water bucket in hopes that we can convince our Nazi slave-masters that we can rebel. --Lordofmonsterisland 15:18, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  132. I have been on Wikia since October 2009. When I joined, everything was fine. In the past year things have got worse. Much worse with this new Message Wall. Gourleyo
  133. Since when has Wikia tried to be a shameless Facebook ripoff? (Rhetorical question, do not answer)--RichardRHunt (talk) (contribs) 16:08, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  134. --Acer4666 16:24, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  135. --RageOfFluffy 16:37, September 28, 2011 (UTC) No, no... No... Just no! How about some democracy?
  136. Burn it. By the way, I do use Wikia, I just can't be bothered to make a Wikia account when I'll only ever use the account I have on the Wiki I use anyway. Oh yeah, burn it. --80.0.8.197 17:11, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  137. Toa Roden
  138. [M1k3y]Rouge-3 19:36, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  139. --THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS ARRIVED SPEAK TO LORD VOLDEMORT... 19:39, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  140. I hate this feature. Nightfern
  141. This is counter to the purpose of the Uncyclopedia projects hosted by Wikia; enabling this feature on a mandatory scale would only detract further from our similarities to what we parody. That said, it also just looks downright annoying and nonsensical, especially considering what wikis, ah, are... ~ Lyrithya 19:57, 28 September 2011
  142. --Eltomo85Talk 20:09, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  143. This is not a social network. --TDA15 talks and edits 20:43, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  144. --Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:47, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  145. Universal 20:48, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  146. Let's rename ourself Facewikia Lewleworange 20:50, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  147. --Bigez - No Biggie. 20:50, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  148. I get that it's useless to post anything here, but it sure as heck makes me feel better to know that I'm not the only one who thinks these changes are idiotic. --Avolling 21:41, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  149. It would make messaging confusing, really. HeadTalk  22:59,9/28/2011 
  150. Per the "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rule. -RAHB 23:12, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  151. Alright, Wikia has officially lost it. Socky
  152. Per all --Sτu ғи ғӣs’өәɴʌ ʟи sτu ıɴƽʟʌ ĸиτraĸu! MattShadow - Laɴƽī pμʟ EraVerse 00:25, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  153. I wish you could have both or have an option of turning it off and on but whatever... --OM NOM NOM! - Dago! 00:30, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  154. I hate the new blog feature. Talkpages forever! Or at least on Uncyclopedia. TheHappySpaceman 02:13, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  155. White Flash (Talk) 02:30, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  156. AburnettTalk 04:26, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  157. This is gonna suck.--Captainhu 05:06, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  158. Let's try not to become Facebook. Please. CC7567 (talk) 05:50, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  159. no --Frosty2204 07:44, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  160. BURN IT WITH FIRE Joeytje50talk 09:01, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  161. I dont like it, i do not want wikia changed into facebook wall which is too many spam on it! Wir.wiryawan 09:40, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  162. Literally every idea wikia has come up with during the last few years has been horrible. --IK Talk 15:13, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  163. This is ridiculous. Wikia is Wikia and Facebook is Facebook. Wikia is for writing articles, not for being a cheap imitation of Facebook, which is primarily a social networking site. If you want to chat with friends, YOU USE FACEBOOK. Now, talking to people on Wikia is fine, as long as it relates to what is going on at the Wikis. But this is ridiculous. There was nothing wrong with our Talk Pages, and there really is no need to replace them simply to rip off giant sites like Facebook. Tomix2010
  164. This time, they've gone too far. - Mata Nui   Talk 16:29, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  165. --Reaper of Souls 16:51, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  166. Combat Robotic Prototype 11 18:56, September 29, 2011 (UTC) This thing will ruin wikia by turning it into a social network.
  167. Probably moot, but it costs me nothing to register my opposition. StClair 20:27, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  168. --Pinguinus impennis 20:31, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  169. Can't let you do that, Starfox Changing the wikis into social network with articles about games, tv series and other things will grow up numbers of users that think it is, in fact, a social network, and will get the articles spammed and given bad changes by new users.--Fabio Ferrado 23:01, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  170. When I want a social network site, I use Facebook. When I want an encyclopedia, I use Wikia. Wikia, I am so very sorry to say that you will never amount to a social network site like Facebook, because since that's what you are aspiring to become, I will always choose Facebook over Wikia. If this was optional and not a forced feature, I'd definitely be with the people down below. But it will not be optional, and forced upon Monobook users as well. So, {{SUBST:User:Waddle D33/Sig}} 23:33, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  171. This idea is um well bad 'n' stuff. —JC (talk) 00:29, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  172. --Trizzip 02:58, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  173. I say leave the talk pages as they are. Wikia is not a social network like facebook, and it doesn't need to be.--Ryker6104:35, September 30, 2011 (UTC)~9:34pm 9/29/2011
  174. Jinzler 10:12, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  175. User:GhostAvatar
  176. Though I know the Wikia Staff don't care about our opinions in the slightest, I still hope they'll listen to this. The Staff are a bunch of morons if they think they can EVER compete with Facebook. ~Baterra1202
  177. All the way! -- Evanf | talk | contribs
  178. --Kangaroopowah   Talk  14:52,10/1/2011 
  179. Don't try to imitate facebook. Menkooroo 16:13, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  180. Coelacanth0794 16:20, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  181. Pack mentality FTW.--Legionwrex 20:38, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  182. Feinoha Talk 20:40, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  183.  Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Oct 2011 1:58 PM Pacific
  184. La$m00r3 23:59, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  185. Jamn liciousness
  186. -- Sir Penguin! 01:47, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  187. Not that Wikia cares about the users who are building the very content that they make so much money from Nighthawk leader 05:58, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  188. We all know that this petition is pointless... - Kingcjc 08:24, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  189. Aye aye. --David Robert Jones 11:34, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  190. Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 19:01, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  191. --Zicoihno (Talk to Me) 19:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  192. -- Heaven's Agent 20:02, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  193. -- By all means implement them, just give each community the choice between a Message Wall and Talk Page. Alexsau1991 (talk page) 20px 20:32, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  194. Cligra
  195. Adding features? Good. Fixing features? Great. Enhancing features? Yes, please. Replacing features? Let me out of here. FB100Ztalkcontribs 21:14, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  196. Captain Jag Talk 24 Edits! Jai'galaar 22:55, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  197. Bad idea. Amy Awien 15:24, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  198. User:Clone gunner comanda jedi
  199. I like some parts of the idea, but since Wikia won't make it optional for those who don't my vote goes here. Starfleet Academy "Live long and prosper." 03:43, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
  200. I hate message wall... also, number 200. InfinityLimit 04:49, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
  201. Per others, even if they keep the message comment things, at least take a hint Wikia... -{{SUBST:user: Nerfblasterpro/sig}} 12:58, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
  202. Over 200 of your users have signed this Wikia. Take note. -{{SUBST:User:Legoguy2805/sig2}} 14:33, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
  203. Elchzard Assassin's Creed Wiki - Staff member
  204. I did not sign up for Facebook and Twitter,i sighed up for Wikia. {{SUBST:Color|Green|HALLO! More info here!}}
  205. I at first wanted to wait until its release, but after testing it on Community Test... Do I really need to say? My name's under the "No" section, right? Roads (The Techical Update we've all been waiting for: category redlinks are back! *sigh*) 21:12, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
  206. For some reason I can't log in to this wiki with my Uncyclopedia username, but let me assure you that I am Zombiebaron, and I am an admin at Uncyclopedia. -Zombiebaron
  207. Call me old fashioned, but I like talk pages much better, and I don't go onto the wikia be part of a social network. User:Conqueror of all Zombies
  208. I waited until I saw the feature, and I do not like it, just as I expected. --Dser (wall | email) 21:56, 10/7/2011
  209. I hope that Wikia staff takes into consideration the overwhelming number of users that are anti-Message Wall. This is clearly an unneeded change which only proves that Wikia, day by day, is slowly becoming more and more like Facebook. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions!) 05:48, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  210. I've said every negative thing I could to Wikia that isn't worthy of a ban already, so...--
      Christopher Costello  Talk  Contribs  Community   17:18, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  211. {{SUBST:User:The Inexistent/Sig}} 17:48, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  212. Isdrakthül
  213. There are some advantages, but is less useful for more complicated matters. Manga (talkcontribs) 21:52, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  214. Kris159 22:56, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  215. {{SUBST:User:Naga Krion/Sig|23:31,|October{{SUBST:nbsp}}08,{{SUBST:nbsp}}2011}} 23:31, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  216. Probble 20:18, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
  217. Most of us don't like the idea. FireBird- 20:56, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
  218. This is a typical case of Wikia ignoring the people who give it money. In the real world, this ignorance is similar to a company ignoring its investors. What do you think happens? The investors are outraged, and sell their stock and potentially boycott the company's products. Eventually, the company will probably go out of business because of the lack of income if something is not done to amend the problem and get the customers back. Its not far off for Wikia if they continue to ignore the community's opinion in these upgrades to the skin. The simple solution would be to make it optional for wikias to enable or disable, and just implement it that way. But, hey, what do we know? We're mere users. -Rainbow Dash Rainbow_Dash.png (Talk) (Contribs) 23:51, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
  219. Remember the zombie flamingo threat I made? Scratch that, I'll sent a murderous clown over there. >_> Template:Signatures/Stinkowing 18:29, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
  220. Well... Yeah. — Hofmic (talk) 03:00, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
  221. --ukimies {talk | CoD wiki admin} 17:49, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
  222. Auguststorm1945 01:48, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
  223. I really like the Talk Pages and because Message Wall makes Wikia look like Facebook, I don't want that stupid thing to replace our wonderful talk pages.  Telinc1  Talk  Email Me  Contribs  Telinc`s Wiki  17:12,10/15/2011 17:12,10/15/2011 
  224. Facebook?... --Ponurak [Dyskusja] 17:42, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  225. this list may be pointless in the long run the staff should know that there is still opposition to having this forced on us. Atleast make it optional.--VivaNewVegas7 18:22, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  226. What is this? This is not facebook! Gamelover101 22:54, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  227. This would simply make habits even harder to accommodate or get used to.... HankGuideDude 23:07, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  228. This is a wikia, not a social network. Do a barrel roll! 19:55, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
  229. I hate the message wall, I love talk pages. Please Wikia staff, Don'T REPLACE TALK PAGES! {{SUBST:Sig/Reznov115}} 21:02, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
  230. Spark01
  231. COMMUNITY CHEST: Wikia: Advance to Facebook, collect 200 dollars, lose 200,000 users. LazroTalk 19:22, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
  232. This looks stupid, many users will quit because of this "update". Congratulations, wikia, you will become facebook! Btw, new users aren't idiots, they know how to use talk pages! Stpehen Was HereHello 20:26, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
  233. We ever gonna keep anything? Damac1214 00:01, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
  234. I really hate new wikia features. No offense to Wikia, but can't you let people keep what they like? Poketape 00:52, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
  235. There's no way I can let R&C leave Wikia because I tried it before and it's terrible to leave, but this is just uncalled for. Just have it as an option, stop standardising these social networking features! Tigernose (Talk) 19:52, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
  236. You guys still don't get it, do you? A large number of users were against the feature, many of them voiced their concerns, and you still ignore them. You're going to lose much of your dedicated Wikia users because of this. You were warned about what might happen with some of the wikis. It seems the only way you guys will listen is when the huge chunk of users threatening to leave you will disappear. Arrancar109 04:48, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
  237. Wikia is sooo mean... --..Jeff (Talk!) (Contribs!) (Email!) (Blog!).. 21:53, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
  238. Flamefang 22:20, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
  239. Please Wikia, pay attention to what we want. --Cathal O'Hara 02:06, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
  240. I can't imagine participating in any wikis that force this option. —Milo Fett[Comlink] 14:58, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  241. Not too annoyed about them and I know they won't really listen, but still.--Technobliterator 17:40, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  242. Come on, don't remove the talk pages! Val (Mind Heist) 17:54, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  243. ~ Ghelæ 17:59, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  244. Why should we? The talkpages are fine. {{SUBST:User:Империос/Sig}} 17:58, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  245. {{SUBST:User:Irskaad/Sig}} 18:00, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  246. Wormulon Talk to me 18:26, October 24, 2011 (UTC) - I've edited wikia since 2007, in my view its losing what it means to be a wiki and users aren't treating it like an encyclopedia. Wiki's are not Twitter, they are not Facebook. I find it unfair that Wikia forces these things on its very community which works hard to keep it an encyclopedia. Talk pages also allowed for personalisation. Messenger takes it away, like Facebook does. When you join Facebook, you become part of Facebook, thats why you can't really customise it.
  247. Xho -- File Not Found.19:06, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  248. Talk pages should not be replaced, this is not Facebook, this is not a social page, this is Wikia. --Bryanzx 23:41, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  249. The talk pages work fine, why should we take the fall just because a few people think this needs to be more like a social networking site? Wikia is a democracy in the fact that anyone can contribute to the greater whole. The decision for this update was not democractic. We, the users, did not have a say. This is nothing less than hypocrisy! Monet47 10:09, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
  250. Who?Blah Blah BlahWhat'd I do...? 05:28, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
  251. --José [ Mi discusión | Contribuciones ] 19:22, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
  252. I really dislike this option. It would be fine if it DID NOT replace talk pages. I say no message wall or make it an optional, not mandatory Toadette Yoshi! Talk to me 19:39, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
  253. ---Grandiosarceus (Talk) 01:06, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
  254. GenLawrence - Optional = good, force = NO WAY!
  255. User:Boba fett 32-Why do we need to become Facebook copycats? This is Wikia. Not Facebook.
  256. There is nothing wrong with the talk pages. Teyandee (Talk) 11:20, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  257. Kyosei 23:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
  258. --Tuckyd 15:09, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
  259. This is just turning our wiki's into social networks like facebook this not what wikia should represent.WOP
  260. This is not Facebook, it's an encyclopedia. WIKI, STOP MAKING UPDATES, THEY ALL ARE DUMB! Won't you guys just listen to us instead of doing despotism and doing eternal updates without hope of appeal, listen to our opinions first! Look at this! 260 people absolutely hate it, and only fourteen people like them! That's 7 out of 130 people! Wiki, please don't do this. Please. Don't act despotically. I am Ganon, you will die! 21:22, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
  261. Why would I want my talkpage to look like a blog? NO! Just Please! NO. --ACF01 Say hello ANYTIME! :) 21:30, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
  262. Redsox1099 (Gentlemen, Behold: CORN!!!) 21:38, November 13, 2011 (UTC) The Talk pages are great the way they are already! STOP TRYING TO MAKE WIKIA EXACTLY LIKE FACEBOOK!!! Just keep Wiki exactly like the simple encyclopedia web sites that we know and love, and not like a crazy social network!!!!!!!
  263. First Oasis then this. Stop it Wikia! SeanWheeler 17:28, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
  264.  Woolva  Talk  Contribs  Empires & Allies  00:46,11/18/2011 
  265. Archduk3 00:50, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
  266. HORTON11 16:03, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
  267. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:31, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
  268. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 23:05, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
  269. {{SUBST:User:Regaliorum/HTadmin2}} WTF message wall? I don't like going after hollow social network sites... 07:40, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm reserving judgment until I see the actual feature

Note: The feature is out... right here!


  1. Because I'm not an idiot -- RandomTime 17:41, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    But, it's really clear how it will only operate in one way - like a blog post/article comments. --Callofduty4 18:04, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    RT, maybe you should watch your words a bit because I am certainly taking that as a post that says that all signers in the above sections are idiots. Just sayin'. 1358 (Talk) 18:09, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    I an insulted. Mand'alor Skyobiliviator The Devastator 22:20, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
    Please keep further replies to the comments section. We want to be able to see the list!    ǝsʞpɐןǝ  (message wall)  18:19, 27/09/2011
  2. He has a point, we don't know what it looks like or how it'll be yet. – zzi 18:15, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  3. And now we all do what we've done before. Get over it. — Wattz2000 18:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Don't judge a book by its cover, hey you never know, you might love it. TheBen10Mazter (Talk-Blogs-Contribs) 19:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  5. I prefer to experience something before i judge it.--DeadDATA 20:53, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  6. I never liked talk pages and Article Comments. They suck. I think we can make suggestions and figure out the workarounds for any deficiencies with Message Wall. — Hasdi Bravo • 21:11, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  7. I want justification when complaining. SereneChaos 00:46, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  8. I wanted to vote for the above one, but I guess you guys do have a point. – Natsu · (talkAvatar Answers) 01:04, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  9. I'll be fair and wait until I can actually try the feature out, but if I don't like it then I'd like the Message Wall to just be an optional feature. I don't want to see the Talk pages go if at all possible. Lloyd the Cat"I hog that hedgehate!" 01:11, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  10. I propose we have a trial run of some kind. I don't want to unfairly scream argh blasphemy traitors of Wikia etc. at the diligent staff, and I'd like to give this a test before I make a judgment. Who knows? This might be good, or it might not.TAD, theavatardemotivator - talk 32px 02:02, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  11. I'm not exactly thrilled about it, but I can adapt to change. So I'll test it out before I say that I hate it.  Iam...JakuhoRaikoben  04:08,9/28/2011 
  12. There won't be any drastic changes from the purpose of talk pages anyways, but a trial is always safer. {{SUBST:User:Axiovatar/Signature2}} 07:46, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  13. I see bad things with the Message Wall, but am waiting to confirm it.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  10:51, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Because only a fool decides to hate something before they've acctually experienced it. It's like a little kid who won't try a new food.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 12:46, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Well... Let's see if it works well or not, I'm happy to wait
    --.Nobody Cares .TalkContribs. 13:32, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  16. I agree with TADDLES and Hasdi Bravo people from mywiki. I'm To Random to talk. 19:31, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Agreed. --NIzzy the Ninja knows, sees and PWNS ALL! XD 19:56, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Seriously. Test trial. My heart's a broken stereo. Skipping beats like a broken metronome. 21:36, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  19. They changed it, now it sucks. Wikia is ruined FOREVER! The MarioGalaxy2433g5 {talk/contribs} 22:31, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  20. {{SUBST:User:legobatmankid10/sig}} 02:27, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  21. The new blog may explain some things...    ǝsʞpɐןǝ  (message wall)  15:32, 27/09/2011
  22. I can't say anything until I see it ;) ♦♦♦OnlyPlayTheSimsGames♦♦♦ 10:18, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Per OPTSG. HP - 14:06, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  24. UltrasonicNXT
  25. Yeah...--Kenzen11 - Blog - Talk 19:56, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
  26. You never know until you see it. --Ji Robinson ~Talk~ ·Contribs·   04:16, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
  27. My first thought was no, but seeing it on the Test Wiki, made me think that the organization will be much easier. I'm still doubting, so I guess I'll up it under this section then. BereisgreatShout!Wikia Star35px-Kuroko_chibi.png 20:57, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind Message Wall but would like for it to be optional

Notion raised by User:SpikeToronto in the Comments section "Compromise: The Middle Ground"


  1. Because I still can't like it in its testing phases, but I do respect the people who actually like it. This is what I would want for Wikia to devise instead of giving us wishy-washy reports about it. Sake neko 20:37, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

I like Message Wall and am fine with it replacing user talkpages

  1. Troll King Imhungry4444 17:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Zantam03 07:59, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Yay for different opinions. -- Webkinz ManiaTalkBlogsContributionsEditcount 11:24, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Why wouldn't anyone like this? This makes user talk pages look a lot more clean, organized, and people don't have to tread through other comments just to see where their conversation last ended. -- Guyviroth - I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for what I'm not.. 17:23, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  5. TWISH 01:34, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  6. I seem to like this update. --Cakemix 20:10, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  7. I supose me puting my name on here will make poeple think im some sort of **** but i like the new pages Prisinorzero (* ) Talk 15:04, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Redlightning312 21:52, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Wikia can be both social and edit oriented. Not like twitter or FB, but I think this will be much faster and easier to achieve convos. Abby10/10/11 22:41 (UTC)
  10. I've got no problem with this now, but think that it should have been a lower priority. LurkerLordB 01:22, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
  11. I have seen them. I really like them! It is like a page on a talk page! I really love them and hope you put them in Wiki labs. OH! Why not make it optional to activate them? Like chat and such? Then people will have them, for those who like them, to use them. For people to do not, do not use them! Simple! Noobe
  12. Looks like better! Darkmosconi97 17:30, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
  13. It looks cool! Maybe one day, wiki can take down facebook! The 24th is meh birthday, so this is my sig For the rest of OCTOBER! 08:23, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  14. i like it Mr. muppet 18:03, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

No opinion

  1. Is this forum actually designed to make an impact? Because it won't. TK999 18:08, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    Shouldn't this be in the comments section? O.o Smuff[The cake is a lie] 18:10, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Please leave any comments below.

  • The "replace talkpages" phrase in this thread might mislead someone into thinking that this feature will affect namespaces other than User_talk, which isn't true. Sovq 16:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • Fixed--GodPray  16:03,9/27/2011 
    • This is incorrect as the MessageWall is intended to eventually replace article talkpages as well. This is merely the first phase of a larger project. The implementation of MessageWalls into user talkspace is surely just to permit the product’s further development and perfection, beta beta testing. — SpikeToronto 09:29, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
Per Xd1358. --N7 [T|C] 17:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Should we number the votes instead of bullet them? We better keep a track of their number(who will count them) Ricizubi 16:50, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
I've changed them all to be numbered. There is no possible way that not numbering them would make more sense. NayayenTALK 16:56, September 27, 2011 (UTC
  • Shouldn't the first option simply be "I don't want it as default" since if it's optional, who cares? Also there are about 3 millions users, I don't know how many will sign here, but I doubt it will be a considerable part of them (well let's try it anyway). leviathan_89 17:34, 27 September, 2011 (UTC)
It's Wikia. When has anything been optional? :)    ǝsʞpɐןǝ  (message wall)  18:01, 27/09/2011
Petitions usually do not need a majority, merely a scary number. Kris159 23:00, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Well I have to say that hiding longer conversations concept isn't bad, I would really like to see that happening, since talks are sometimes too long, shortening them is a good idea, it makes navigation easier. Also having something that tells us WHAT messages we have isn't bad either, but an old fashioned message box is good enough, if it tells me the heading/s that I got, that's ok. Also, IMPROVING the commenting thing, that is something, if the staff can make an improved version of it then that is gonna be great. To name the user/s to which you want to send the message, then in a box you add the text and just send the message, that if it gets a preview button like the editor will be perfect! I will make sending a message way easier. With the message box linked directly to the heading edited, then navigating to the talk will be easier and compressing discussions is gonna make navigating through the talk a lot easier. What else would we need for improvement?!(dreams of being someone important and having his ideas listened, nice dreams, on the blog they won't be at least...) Ricizubi 17:39, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • IDK why you're even bothering with this. Wikia implemented Oasis despite all the complaints, so what makes you think they're going to turn the other cheek with this new feature? Sgt. S.S. 18:51, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • Agreed on that. TK999 18:52, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • Do you really wanna give up just like that? You have to try, you have to since hope dies last, that's one of the basic parts of human survival, to not give up. its better to try and then say you failed rather than to say you never tried, it might be just one site on the internet, but we users work on it, edit on it so we have to careI don't care if they implement it or not, I want what they implement to be improved, not the way they want it, since that way no one agrees Ricizubi 18:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • I'm saying, fighting it is just a waste of energy, as the whole Oasis fiasco proved. Sgt. S.S. 19:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • Exactly. The community tried to avert changes multiple times—they failed. Why is it necessary to start it over again? As an old French saying referring to the Bourbon family put it: “They did not learn anything but they did not forget anything.” TK999 19:05, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
        • S.S.: Oasis was dealt with, but not without lasting blows. This is looking to be even bigger than Oasisgate, which is saying something. The bigger the bomb is, the bigger devestated area. If WoWWiki nearly left because of Oasis, for example, what will happen now? If they actually do up and leave Wikia's bound to take notice and figure something out. Styracosaurus Rider (Speak to the Rider, your Lord and Master) {Look upon my servants} 19:09, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
          • ...or Wikia will just let them leave, keep the WoWWiki's Wikia domain open for advertising revenue, and they (Wikia) won't miss a beat. It happened when the GTA Wiki decided to move. Sgt. S.S. 19:11, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
          • WoWWiki did leave (it's WoWPedia now). Wikia, as the Sergeant notes, kept the name and the (increasingly outdated) content to lure in eyeballs and google searches and make ad money. Same with the City of Heroes wiki (Paragon Wiki), now hosted at CoH Titan, and GTA (again, per the Sgt), and I'm sure there are others. See, that's the thing: you can copy, you can move, but you can't actually make them remove anything. Once you give them your content, it's theirs forever. StClair 20:25, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
            • WoWWiki did not leave, several admins and users left to form Wowpedia. However, Oasis did hurt WoWWiki significantly and Wikia lost alot of revenue (they have to pay someone to help maintain WoWWiki now). -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 Oct 2011 2:18 PM Pacific
  • This is not Facebook, this is wikia; and for that reason, I will very much dislike this to be added. Agent Swipe(talk)
  • EBTalk
  • I joined Wikia during November 2008. Nothing new over almost three years has been as bad an idea as this. I feel that adding this message wall thing will make people misinterpret what Wikia truly is.
    --Dser (wall | email) 21:11, 9/27/2011
  • Why has the Wikia Staff decided to implement a feature that Facebook has been catching flack for itself? The stuff that Wikia keeps adding to Wikia was designed for social networking sites (some of which dont even work correctly), not encyclopedias. In their quest to become a small horde of wealthy Zuckerberg clones, they've neglected the most important aspect of the site; the community.--144PA 21:53, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Sadly 100 and even 1000 signs against "message wall" won't be enough compared to all the wikia users (more than 3 millions), though the actual active users are fewer... (I say one million, wait did it count anons too?), so 100.000 are a good number (still 10% though). This forum won't prove anything, but the efforts maybe won't get ignored. leviathan_89 13:31, 28 September, 2011 (UTC)
  • A doubt, since we see already unfortunately that we will have this application by force, was this affecting also the talk pages of the articles?Syluxen Metroidover/Wikisimpsons/Wikidex/Ace Attorney/Digimon
  • Wikia is an encyclopedia, not Facebook. Silver Glaceon (TalkContribs) 00:50, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
Can we have both? :O --TDG.gif (Talk) 02:01, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  • I have a feeling that this will be one of those things we dislike, but accept with time, such as the oasis skin. 25px-Logo.svg.png 25px-TyA-pony.png 03:44, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  • 118 signatures in approximately 10 hours. Yeah Wikia, there's gotta be something in that.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 06:28, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  • Most people who visit Wikis are regular, unregistered visitors. 99% percent of those have and will never see your talkpage. By making the talkpage more clear and easier to use Wikia hopes to encourage teamwork for the Wiki. If people want to call that "Facebook-ish" then go ahead, but I don't see how it does and I'm actually looking forward to the message wall. Never really liked the :::::: and ~~~~ or.... people forgetting to use those. ---Zantam03 (Talk) 10:45, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
    • As a wiki admin for almost 7 years, I can guarantee this change will not encourage teamwork, it will just encourage more users not to learn wikicode and therefore mess up alot of pages. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 4 Oct 2011 2:21 PM Pacific
      • But what does a user learn from adding :::: or ~~~~ to a message? --Zantam03 (Talk) 13:04, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
  • On my 2 years on Wikia, I just noticed that Wikia is pretty much doesn't care about the effects of the feature and just thinking about how it looks like. All these things your forcing down to your "customers" (you said we were) doesn't belong here. All I know is that I'm here to see information and add information, not to connect with others like I do in Facebook.
    --.Nobody Cares .TalkContribs. 11:00, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Harry Potter

  • 87 frikin percent of the voters (as of now) don't want the wall, Wikia. But, no. You're obviously gonna do it, as you don't give a sh** what the community thinks. You think everything you do will improve the site, but you're wrong. You're just a wannabe FaceBook. ~ MTDM 19:19, September 28, 2011 (UTC) doesn't have a signature template.
  • I see hypocrisy. You go around calling staff stupid and stuff, but the second somebody calls one of you stupid, you criticize them. The MarioGalaxy2433g5 {talk/contribs} 01:46, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • Then is it not hypocritical to call the people voting against this stupid if you know nothing at all about the vast majority of them other than they don't like what the Message Wall would do? At least those saying Wikia hasn't been paying attention to what the users think (which some would say is a stupid move since we generate the content) have a myriad of quantifiably dumb ideas implemented by the staff to point at for evidence. NaruHina Talk 16:02, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • I have called no one anything. You may note that I left no message just my signature. I merely disapprove. Karohalva 01:48, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  • Could an experienced coder correct how I numbered my answer? I inadvertently reset the counting after the 49th user :-(.--Gilderien Talk|Contribs 20:24, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  • Really, if this was an optional update, I'd really support it. Manga (talkcontribs) 21:54, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • I say that if they allow nested comments, like being able to comment to a comment, etc., then I have no problem with it. THink its a bit unnecessary, but no problem (if that is implemented) LurkerLordB 00:38, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
    • It should works like blogs, so you can comment a comment, but only on the first level. leviathan_89 21:46, 10 October, 2011 (UTC)
    • Actually, thinking about it, I realized that talk pages really should not have giant conversations on them, just the equivalent of PMs between two users, so mutliple levels should be unnecessary. LurkerLordB 01:19, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm just saying that I was forced to use this feature, and I have to say that my vote is staying. This feature can't even begin to come close to replacing talk pages and Wikia needs to make this go the way of the dodo bird. Lancer1289 20:26, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • I have been against this from the beginning. --Lemursrule 04:28, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Compromise: The Middle Ground

The problem with this forum is that it does not allow for those of us who have no problem with MessageWalls on the right wiki, but do not want it forced on those wikis for which it will not be a good fit. There are some wikis on which the MessageWall would be a great fit. But, there are others on which it would be a disaster. Unfortunately, the choices in this forum are binary: MessageWalls on, or MessagWalls off, on all wikis, no other possibility. There are, however, two other possibilities:

  1. MessageWalls activated via Special:WikiFeatures on those wikis whose Communities want it
  2. MessageWalls, TalkPages, or Both activated via Special:WikiFeatures.
    On those wikis where both are activated, then both MessageWalls and TalkPages would co-exist. It would just be a matter of creating additional namespaces.
    Suppose both were activated on a television programme-based wiki called True Blood Twilight: Sagas Unite. Further suppose that, just last night, the latest episode of the series aired and that a keen, eager member of the True Blood/Twilight community has created a new page in the main article namespace {{ns:0}} for it. The associated talkpage in the talk namespace {{ns:1}} could continue to be used by those True Blood/Twilight content creators and wiki maintainers who need the greater functionality of mediawiki talkpages in order to best perform their unpaid, volunteer jobs at peak efficiency. At the same time, the myriad numbers of True Blood/Twilight community members not involved with content creation and wiki maintenance, who want to chat and commune about the lastest episode of this great series, would use the MessageWall associated with that new episode article, which would be found in a linked namespace (e.g., {{ns:201}}).
    In this way, Wikia would still have MessageWalls making Wikia the place on the Internet that combines the best of Facebook, Twitter, and mini-Wikipedias, generating ever more mouse clicks yielding ever more revenue. At the same time, the unpaid, volunteer content creators and wiki-maintainers — whose content makes Wikia the place to visit on the Internet — would still have the greater functionality of talk namespaces to best perform their unpaid, volunteer jobs at peak efficiency, yet still be able to participate in the chit-chat communing space that is MessageWalls. By Wikia continuing to permit talkpages, current core members, who create the content that attracts revenue-generating visitors to the site, would be able to continue to function optimally, continue to thrive.

This forum does not permit those of us who see a middle ground, a compromise, from voicing that position. — SpikeToronto 09:29, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I really don't want the Message Wall on some Wikis but if I wouldn't mind it on others. I really, really, really want this to be optional, just like a bunch of other users do and most features are optional. In fact, I think all features should be optional and enabled/disabled in Special:WikiFeatures.
Head.Boy.HogTalk  Happy Halloween!  18:07,10/22/2011 
Agreed too. I have no doubt it would be useful for some wikis, but on many, many others it would not be. It should either be optional via WikiFeatures or else be on all wikis as an addition to talk pages - most certainly not as a compulsory replacement for them. Wikia can add message walls as a new namespace and leave talk pages/the talk namespace alone so that both can be used or just one or the other if a particular wiki wishes. Wikia seems convinced talk pages are broken - maybe they are not fit for purpose on some wikis, but for oh so many others they work perfectly fine and do not need to be replaced. Communities should be given the choice. Good post Spike! ~~Ууp <talk> 13:21, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
By the way, I opposed the message wall above only because it wouldn't be optional. Head.Boy.HogTalk  Happy Halloween!  14:11,10/23/2011 
Same. I don't mind it being optional, since it could work on the wikis that do want to become social networking sites, but the staff seems more content on shoving it down our throats without taking into consideration what those who are more content/information-oriented have to say about it, especially since article and site maintenance are a priority on such wikis, and actual talk pages are helpful in those scenarios. Message Walls will botch that grossly, especially when users use the talk pages to make random comments that have absolutely nothing to do with article and site maintenance, not to mention many wikis still get vandals, both for articles and their talk pages. Arrancar109 (Talk) 19:26, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
Not to be snotty, Spike, but nothing prevents you from making a new post with your position and a new place for people to list their usernames in support of that position. Don't get me wrong, I agree with the idea of making Message Walls switchable, but it should be in a separate post. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 26 Oct 2011 4:46 PM Pacific

Message Wall will be switchable in WikiFeatures?

From Message Wall#Updates:

Message Wall will be placed in Labs when it's close to feature complete. (10/26/11)

If it works well like that for testing, maybe they will keep it switchable. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 26 Oct 2011 5:03 PM Pacific

Nope. Every new feature starts off as an option in WikiLabs, even if it's going to be mandatory later. Raven's wing 18:21, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Agree with Raven’s wing. — SpikeToronto 08:36, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
WikiLabs is nearly the same thing as WikiFeatures . It is on the same page WikiFeatures and there is not much difference but , Raven's Wing , you are correct with the info. * ~Happy65 Talk My Amazing Blogs ! 08:39, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
There’s an enormous difference. They are on the same page to make it administratively and funtionally easier. They are not on the same page because they are the same, which they are not. Not every product that graduates from Labs moves up to Features. Those items in Features are Labs graduates that we optionally activate/de-activate. But, not all graduates from Labs are made optional Features products. Those that graduate from Labs, but are not moved to Features, are fully implemented, Wikia-wide. An example of such a product would be the new RTE. Just because the MessageWall is spending some time in Labs does not mean that it will necessarily move to Features when it “graduates”. Every indication is that it will be treated like the new RTE and be fully implemented system-wide. — SpikeToronto 08:50, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
I don't know. I felt that talk pages were what made Wikia special, and having a signature to customize was what made it all the more fun. I haven't tested the message wall yet, but I'm not certain if I would leave Wikia just for that sole reason. Random-StoryKeeper 01:28, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to have an option as to what to use... standard wiki talk page, that weird thing that article comments does, LiquidThreads, or MessageWall, and be a user selectable option (personal preferences selects your personal talk page, while Wiki wide option selects the default style, or default style per namespace) ForestMonthZero 06:42, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

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