Wikia chats are going down like cazy. last night it was Halo Nation. today it was Assassin's creed RP and CrossOverRP's chats. and only Chat Mods and Admins can get on to the chats. WTD is going on? can you help?
and yet again... someone as blocked everyone but Admins and Chat mods on Halo Nation chat. IDK why this is happaning! i really don't.. its just a pain for you, the teck's and HN users.. i'm sorry but i don't know whats going on with this. maybe someones hitting the butten thats UNSC state of emerg.. and sorry for this being so long... but its only HN again.. i think someones doing this to mess with the none Admin/Mod users..
I am stuck trying to send emails on wiki's. I have a wiki called Most epic fails wiki but I can't send emails. And on my wiki when I wont to change someone to a bureaucrat it doen't allow me. Its on groups you cant change please help me.
I see no reason that your Cool guy569 account can't promote, nor the original founder of the wiki, Raycool20039 couldn't repromote you. In addition, there's really no need for you to have all the rights you do have, you may wish to community to Raycool that being a bureaucrat automatically gives you all the rights of a sysop and a chat moderator.
Well I am a bureaucrat on the most epic fails wiki. You can check my userrights if I promote you to an admin. Well you can see because your staff but I'm also still stuck on emails. Where do you send emails? please help me.
A.r.s.h.'s message explains how to send emails to other users, you can contact staff with issues at Special:Contact if that is the kind of email you are referring to. Otherwise, Wikia does not offer any sort of email service.
But where do you send them do you go to some sort of Special:Email page. I'm also Having problems with some one from alexhi wiki who was swearing on my page he is called Penguinkid999 I have blocked him and gave him a warning. What else should I do hes a bit of a mainicac. But you can check his page.
I don't need your help with penguinkid999 anymore.
I know I'm not a staff member, and I don't handle adoption requests, but I have responded to your message on Dopp's wall. As I said there, it's best to message a staff member who handles the adoption requests.
I blocked the admin because they changed the wordmark image to one for their own wiki. This is also not the first time that they have done this. In the past, they altered the wordmark image to nonrelated content and added a background image from one of their own wikis. The wordmark image was left up for a prolonged period of time and I had to take it down myself. In addition to the wordmark image they also changed the favicon and the background to that of their own wiki. What I saw was a hostile takeover of the wiki I founded that was being transformed to advertise the admin's own wiki. Please help me, I feel that I cannot trust this person not to repeat similar actions in the future.
Could you point me to the wiki this is happening on? It may be best to have this discussion via Special:Contact as well, since it sounds like this may be a more sensitive matter.
There is more to the discussion on the talk pages and the archive because this admin decided to change the wikia format in the middle of the discussion and not much is being accomplished. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it.
I am currently having issues with an abusive admin on the wiki that I founded. This person is uploading unrelated material to the wiki and implenting it on the pages. The admin uploaded a images and a title on the main page for something called Rune Factory but my wiki subject matter has nothing to do with this game! People who visit my wiki will get confused. I changed the image and blocked the user but she in turn blocked me. Can you please help me?
Hi, recently you added the moderator usergroup at Ben 10 Planet (thanks :)), but the moderator right can only be added by sysops and bureaucrats, but not revoked, we would like bureaucrats and sysops to have the right to revoke the usergroup. Also, when the moderator usergroup was added, a bureaucrat's ability to revoke the bot user right was deleted/removed, we would like that back as well. Thanks DaNASCAT for doing all the recent changes at our wiki. We really appreciate it. BTW, the moderator usergroup has been renamed through MediaWiki to "BTSM" by me, for our wiki's purposes. :)
Yes, I would like bureaucrats and sysops to be able to add and revoke the moderator usergroup (now known as "BTSM"). Also, I would like bureaucrats to regain their ability to revoke the "bot" usergroup. Thanks. :)
Thanks. But, one more thing (sorry), before the moderator was added, bureaucrats could revoke the bot usergroup, now we can't, that needs to be fixed too. Thanks. :)
Oh no! You made our settings that bureaucrats can remove bureaucrats. Meaning, users with the bureaucrat bit, can remove the bureaucrat user right! This has to be fixed. :)
hi, there is an Admmin on Althistory Wki that has banned me twice in the last twenty four hours, this time for a week and for taking over a page that an IP user just put 5 words n and left, even after i said he might want to fix it. so i took it over and fixed it up.
iwas then banned for hijacking the page.
i dont neccesarily weant him removed formm his post, but he is also biased on map games, which is game we play on the wiki, but can you please wanr him and remove my ban from that wiki, its spring break and all I wanted to do was help out and fix the page.
I'm sorry you're having this experience. One of the great things about Wikia is that our wikis are maintained by their members, and each can be managed differently depending on the preferences of the admins. The downside of this freedom of community, however, is that Wikia staff members do not intervene in most user disputes.
It sounds like your choices are to either compromise and try to get along with this admin, or to focus your efforts on another wiki where your contributions are more appreciated. I hope you find the solution you need. Thanks for being part of Wikia.
I was wondering if I could make some small logo type things for the three main tabs at the top. I already made one (then come to find out it was changed into Video Games :/), but I find it bland and everything could use a good picture :D. If you don't think that one is needed, that's fine by me. And if you want to see what the gaming (or games) originally looked like:
And I didn't know who to come to, asking this. So I chose someone who is awesome. ;)
Hi, when you renamed the project namespace, it deleted a couple pages (no worries :)), I would like them to be undeleted, check w:c:ben10:MediaWiki:Community-corner, the red links on that page, for the list of deleted pages. Thanks!
Okay, here's what we're going to do. We're going to undo the project namespace change.
These were pages that were already prefixed "Ben 10 Planet:" and as such, were overwritten by the namespace parser. You need to move those and any page that now starts with "Ben 10 Planet:" to the Project Namespace, i.e. "Project:About".
Here is a list of all the pages you will need to moth:
When I reinstate the namespace, these will appear in the right place. Here's how - The namespace you are working with is always called Project. Project is an alias to NS:4, redirecting to whatever namespace NS:4 is named.
Let me know when the namespace is ready to be renamed and I will do so.
Mass Effect Answers is in dire need of staff intervention once again. I've left a more detailed message in your thread on my wall there. Please read it.
In so far as I'm aware, yes this is expected because Wiki Activity queries and then prints the plaintext. If you look at Wiki Activity in general, I'm not aware of any sort of comment/edit summary that renders links.
Most of the editors on our wiki do not have too much wiki experience. They don't like wikistyle forum as they are often confused about how to reply and how to sign the post. People have been asking me for a better forum for awhile. Our url is Zh.asoiaf.wikia.com
Is it too late to make requests? I'm asking because a phpBB based forum or somesuch seems philosophically incompatible to a wiki. There's lots of wiki-goodness the traditional forums do not know. It would be cool e.g. if everybody would still be able to view - maybe even edit - everybody else's wikicode. Traditional forums don't have that. Posts are black boxes there. That's not something that needs to be imitated here.
each post needs its own automatically generated permalink
there should be a convenient mechanism for quoting other posts
it would be nice to have avatars and/or banners
there needs to be a "forum activity" page - a pendant to "wiki activity" if you will - that would sort threads (across different forums) by date and give you a few statistics: number of hits, number of replies and last replier
no series of little black boxes a là message wall; the entire page should remain editable; posts should be run-of-the-mill editsections
Indeed. The message wall completely throws away the wiki page structure and replaces it with millions of little black boxes. That's what tradional forums do. That's what we don't need here.
Oh, and we don't need another editor either! The editor(s) the forums currently have are fine. All we really need are two new tags: <post></post> and <quote></quote>. That's it.
BTW: This is a case in point! Monchoman45 should have been able to edit my list himself. This is a wiki, right?
The threads currently look a bit unstructured and messy because of all the indenting, unindenting and failure-to-indenting. It's inconvenient to manually indent of course. It's also inconvenient to manually sign and people forget it all the time (or at least I do). It's rather annoying that you can only link to the entire thread, but not to particular posts. And it would be helpful if there was an easy way to quote other posts in toto or in parte in your own. All of these things would make the forums more user-friendly. And I should add: All of these things are standard in non-wiki forums. Anyone who ever visited a regular forum takes these things for granted and will be surprised to not find them here (or at least I was).
The question is: are the servers and CDN capable of supporting the added resources these functions consume and whether a tutorial could build a bridge between new users and the wiki forums.
Please give admins an on/off setting for whether or not users are able to edit other people's forum posts, so that individual wikis can decide what works best for them.
I agree with most of the feature requests that Pecoes listed above, and quoting / avatars / sigs in forums are the features I would most want to see.
Wiki philosophy is good, but traditional forums exist for a reason. Because they work. Traditional forums are a recipe for success, and while they can certainly be improved upon, users will tend to feel most comfortable with what they already know and love.
@Mathmagician: I think we need wiki-style forums on a wiki farm. If they want their own forum there are forum stables too (not forum stables lol but there are forum hosting sites!!) or they can get phpBB and have their forum there.
@Mathmagician: I understand your point, but this is more than anything else a philosophical question. In the article space everybody is responsible for everything and there's no such thing as secret sauce. Is it really a good idea to completely invert that in the talk space? Do we really want a forum, where nobody learns anything from other people's code? Do we really want a forum, where nobody is responsible and the admins are in charge?
@Pecoes: Why exactly should forums or user talk pages resemble the article space so closely? Forums / user talk pages are used for direct communication between people, whereas the article space is not. I would expect there to be differences in functionality, as there are differences in purpose. (Also, why are people able to edit other's profiles anyway? There's no need for that functionality, it's just another wide open, troll-sized door in my opinion.)
I also see no need for people to learn from code in forums. There are plenty of other avenues for that, such as talk pages, sandboxes, project namespace, etc. This is not the primary purpose of forums imo -- it is a nice, additional, on-the-side feature, not a priority.
Your last question gives me some pause. The obvious answer is no, we would prefer people to be responsible and not require admins to take care of everything. What I will bring up in response is two points:
This is just a rehash of my opinion above, but forum posts (and really, talk page posts) should "belong" to the author in the sense that non-admins should not be able to modify them. These are primarily personal communications and should be treated and respected as such, just as blogs and comments are. To say that articles belong to the community, therefore personal communications should as well is not a solid argument, in my opinion. I mean, it's not like personal account details such as passwords belong to the community.
Why let people modify others' forum posts? There's not any physical, non-philosophical need for that functionality, as people can modify what the person said when quoting them. Again, why give trolls and vandals another opening?
Trolls and vandals cannot be stopped by confining them to little black boxes. Sure, it could be argued that they can do less damage, if they can only ruin their box. But in a "true" wiki setting anybody can revert or delete whatever they did, while in a regular forum the only recourse is to go look for an admin. That makes corrections more complicated and fosters a "not my problem" mentality.
But the whole troll argument is backwards IMHO. Let's not live our lifes as if the trolls run the show. Let's think about what would be useful to the rest of us!
The need to learn wikicode is a big argument, I think. Compare it to HTML! There are plenty of books about HTML. There are plenty of websites devoted to HTML. And still: Most people do not learn HTML from books or web sites. They learn HTML by reading other people's pages in the source. Because that is - unlike the wikicode I'm using right now - always available. Using HTML, teaching HTML and learning HTML go hand in hand and happen simultaneously. Given the dearth of books and web sites about wikicode, the same should be doubly and triply true here. It would be a shame to let the forums go to waste then, I think.
So is there a need to modify other's posts? Not very often, no. I'd rather not have somebody edit what I'm writing right now. But look at the list I posted above! Wouldn't it be nice if you could edit it? Wouldn't it be nice if everybody could? It would certainly become more useful and move beyond one person's personal opinion.
Pecoes just makes the better argument. He knows what he's talking about. I am in support for his argument and I strongly recommend his ideas to the Wikia Development staff.
^I've said pretty much everything I wanted to, all I wish to add is this:
I would hesitate to edit that list that you posted. I see it as representing your personal words and opinion, not as community content -- it would be extremely disrespectful for me to edit it. And I have no need to do so, because I could quote it easily enough assuming that quoting were implemented properly in a forum environment. If I were to add to your list, what I would add is:
Ability for user X to set in their preferences whether other people are able to edit X's forum posts. (I personally don't want people editing my blogs, message wall posts or forum posts. These are personal communications and social networking add ons. They enhance the wiki, but are not community content and wiki philosophy doesn't really need to be applied to these.)
And/or "give admins an on/off setting for whether or not users are able to edit other people's forum posts, so that individual wikis can decide what works best for them" (as I said before)
Clarification: I'm not opposed to people being able to "view source" on my posts, if it helps them learn code. All I am opposed to is editing/modification.
You know: Maybe we could have the best of both worlds: How about a flag that says "Make this post editable for all"? Normally it would be unchecked, but any poster could check it for his or her post at any time. There should be a clear message in the interface that marks that particular post as editable.
A variation could be that every forum post automatically gets its own wiki section at the very beginning. People could use it or not. That would be optional.
Either way we would get a fluid mix of personal statements and wiki-like group efforts.
Viewing a post's source should still be possible for each and every post, but that could be decoupled from editing the source.
Also, wiki forums have the advantage of size, which may be an issue in a new design full of avatars, automatic sigs, nicknames, borders and boxes, therefore I support Pecoes.
I recently started my own wikia (link to it here: http://leagueofindependentnationspotco.wikia.com/wiki/League_of_Independent_Nations_(POTCO)_Wiki). However, I edited my special user rights by accident, unaware that it would affect my bureaucrat-ship. Anyways, I'm now a rollback on my own wikia, and I was just wondering if there was a way you could make me bureaucrat again. Thanks for the help, and have a nice day.
Hi Jeremiah. I've re-added your rights. While the accidental removal is a bug that we hope to have fixed ASAP, you don't need to edit your user rights, as administrator and bureaucrat gives you all of the abilities that are available on a local level. Like I said, though, we do hope to have that fixed real soon.
