Fan26 wrote: I looked at the post-I'm sorry, but none of those messages made any sense. Could you be a little clearer?
Yes you are right ,if someone offends my faith, nation, religion whether that man or more of them can still normal to be here and to continue as if nothing had happened.and after a few days he does the same thing or something worse .if he can do it here and pass without punishment ,Is it possible this here in this commune?
We were just kidding! It's been so long since I had such fun conversation with another user.
About Affiliation: Don't you think it is kinda of a desperate move to gain more interest towards the community? I mean, Shrek? Really?? Can you seriously see any kinda of strong bond or connection which would connect them together? Or If you just look at the two franchises separately, then put them next to each other ( in mind ) do you consider them as a really similar animation movies? I guess I just mentioned the main issue with this idea: two franchises, two separate franchises. Different era, difderent story, plot, character developments, plus Ice Age is based upon actually exsisted prehistoric animals.
You see, why I think it is the worst idea ever in the community's history?
And as I noticed, the Shrek community isn't too enthusiastic about this idea neither. They are being neutral about it. Only the Admin forces it.
But you're right, I want to save the community.
Since Nerfmaster8 managed to hinder the Demotion vote, being afraid of loosing his position as an Admin, I'd like to ask, is there another way to start another vote, if not by using the name "Demotion" but someting similar l, par example Confidence vote about him staying in Admin position? I've been keeping contact with Eva ane she told me, any enstabilized member is free to start a demotion vote. Yet now Kirkburn said there has to be a consensus from members to make it work. I think the consesus from most of the recently joined member as there if you have read their comments on the voting thread. They have all been accused unjustifiably for being me by Nerfmaster8. I am still asking to use checkuser on them since those account does not belong to me nor do I know the users behind them. I think Nerfmaster has became paranoid at thus point. Hence I'd like to ask someone, competent yet neutral to restart the thread and monitor the happenings and users who votes in it since this demotion thread started clean lt was Nerfmaster who influenced it by his "voting puppets" just to mention one: one user with no activity in the past 2 years popped up and voted in his favor. Do you think you can start a new vote on the Community or can you recommend someone who could start it? And for the record: Nerfmaster8 admitted his friend davidjimnez provocated Manny and because he answered to his provocation the way he did, Nerfmaster is now accusing him as well for being me. The only thing Nerfmaster does recently is accusing every member who voted against him or recently joined for being me when I clearly stated I deleted my other account that 1 had. Why would I make other accounts when I know they would make no use in this case. If only my borther would have inforned me sooner about him making a new account, rest assure I would have prevented it.
Nerfmaster8 if your listening: if you still think I am ThePoofyMammoth, don't you think I would have used that account sooner instead of BenjaminSaber to defend my edits or to start the demotion vote earlier? I hope I managed to deliver my current concerns and points of this situation because this is nowhere over yet.
Please read my post again and forgive me for the typos. My native language is not english so it's a bit hard to express myself in the way I originally intended to but I'm trying my best.
Actually you are misinformed. The voting stopped at the state of 4 Support and 4 oppose, it was even at that point but they vote should have went for 2 weeks. I asked it before several times and I ask here from you too, to check those accounts IP please because I had ebough of being accused and framed for a mistake I did once, not counting my borther's but he only had a good intent and dorogt to inform me earlier. But those accoints are not mines! Why would I make multiple accounts when I know, I wouldn't reach any goal with them? I'm honestly asking you that, even if you don't believe me, but at least give those innocent users a chance to prove their true identity by checking their IP. I forgot their usernames but there was a list made by davidjimnez who collected them all, and accusing them to be me. I feel bad that because of my mistake of using one single secondary account, caused them block when they did nothing!
Which ones exactly? BenjaminSaber? Deleted. EarthNinja18? Deleted by my brother. ThePoofyMammoth? I'm not gonna delete his account since it is not mine! Even you said it earlier. Is there a way to check IP by aedits made by that account from the time further back? That would prove I am not ThePoofyMammoth. Or do you want him to comment here and explain the situation to you so the staff can perform IP check on him proving he is not me? Or only Admins can ask Staff members for checkuser when it would serve their favor?
I see. Could you help me with getting things cleared up and contacting the Staff to check those accounts too? I forgot their username but I know davidjimnez made a post where he listed them, I will search for it.
Just wanted to be sure you saw kirkburn'a statement at ice age pertaining to sockpuppets. Furthermore, its now obvious until just recently diego has been playing good account - bad account. David managed to provoke diego into compromise of the mammoth
Yes Nerfmaster8 your rude pal Davudjimnez insulted and trolled my friend Manny. However his response shows no similarities to mine even tho you are assuming it. Where did I ever say anywhere that further insults will cause physical pain, in this case, using the term "stomping on your face" was not the proper behavior to use from him but keep in mind, his patience level is lower than mine and therefore he can't ignore such harrassing insults from davidjimnez.
Don't think that you win and you can rule your "kingdom" the same way you did so far. There was a reason why the demotion vote started against you. And you can't hinder it forever by influencing it, requesting certain Staff members to act in your favor.
If you are active on any other social platform beside Wikia, I would be more than happy to prove my identity to you along with my friend, ThePoofyMammoth, to show you, we are not the same person. If you're refusing to accept any evidence which would prove against your own belief then can't describe your current behavior other than doing " ostrich policy"
I did not tell David to do anything in relation to you, that is your problem. Furthermore this thread does not involve you. There is no way to prove who owns what account, besides that you compromised the mammoth at rrabbit42 wall by arguing with screenshot with David. I don't care who started being uncivil but you both were told to stop!
I'm not going to give you any social media just so you can continue this harassment.
Who is harrasing who? I'm simply trying to prove my truth and fight for the justice of mine and those other users you blocked illegally! You know its funny how you say this thread does not involve me when you mentioned my name on the first post. Or when you say that there is no way to prove who ows what account. Then why the heck do you think I own every account on Ice Age Wikia. You make no sense anymore. By the way there is a way called checkuser. Use it. I am done with you and the tyranny you built up on Ice Age wikia.
I am not following him nor am I harrasing him. How could I when he put infinite block on me so I can't even post anywhere! For some reason I can post here. But He followes me! Nerfmaster8 I am not going to read your "Final message" you posted on my wall. Fan26 I think you should read that instead since that is harrassment furthermore shows obvious signs of threatments.
Why are you trying to lock me out of the Fandom I worked hard to help on? For this stupid Shrek Affiliation. Honestly now, Fan26 do you think the two franchises should be merged? Do you see any obvious signs of similarities between them if you look at them side by side? I'm just curious about your opinion because so far, whoever I asked about this question, they said No.
I guess there is no way then to solve this situation peacefully anymore...
Fan26 where can I ask the staff to permit checkuser on those accounts?
Understant. But then can you please delete his last message on my wall because because it is insulting, disturbing and I do not want to talk with him neither in the furure. Please inform him about it.
Aiihuan. I'm glad you commented. I would like to explain this whole situation to you because so far you only heard Nerfmaster8's part in the story.
Do you have an e-mail address I could consult with you? I'm sure you know mine, could you please send me a e-mail? I want to get things cleared up. Or may I message you on your wall?
Not sure which message you are talking about as there is none from him on your message wall, but either way, I have been keeping an eye on messages and I see nothing that we would consider bad enough to be deleted. And I am afraid explaining the situation to me would not quite help. I am merely a local administrator here on Community Central - there is nothing I could do regarding it. If you are doubtful or need evidence regarding accounts said to by abused by you, then you should talk with Staff through Special:Contact/general about it. Also, please do pay attention to Pyro's warning.
I do not really have anything to do with the wiki or the matter, so I do not believe I should be intervening. It is not like me asking them would change their answer either. You can go ahead and ask for CheckUser yourself. If Staff are not willing to help, then you could only move on from this.
And should I just let Nerfmaster8 get away with his false accusation, keeping those innocent users being blocked infinite? When I first joined the community along with others, we wanted to make it more popular, develop it, expand the articles with new information which would be precious for fans.
I still wish to do that, but since I can't, the least I can do is letting other recently joined user to have the chance for it. That's why I am asking your help.
Edit: I found the list, made by Davidjimnez, plus I added the ones he recently accused them for being me as well.
You would help on them, not me.
I am doing it for the Ice Age community. I'd like to see more users working on it even tho if the Admin already gave up on it... Just think about those users who were accused for being me and the next they they found themselves blocked because of a situation the had nothing to do with. What would your sense of justice say? I am trying to fix this issue for their favor!
Please promote your wikis through blog posts, and not my wall. However, Chris6d makes a good point: there are plenty of other wikis out there. Try joining somewhere else, Diego.
I think you misunderstand me or you still think I have those accounts. I wouldn't ask checkuser for them if that would be the case.
I am not trying to beg myself back to the community, but I want to get things cleared up for the favor of the rest of the users there.
Just think about those users who were accused for being me and the next they they found themselves blocked because of a situation the had nothing to do with. What would your sense of justice say?
Though I am not involved in this dispute, mine would be to let those users defend themselves. Have they been doing that? You probably know more than I do.
The thing is, I'm not sure if they know how to, like it took me awhile to find the place where I can contact the wikia because noone told me that I have that opportunity, I had to search for it on my own. I hope they will find it too. But I still would like to help them at least helping them by showing them the central help contact page where they can contact the Staff. Currently I can't do that. That is why I am asking for either of yours help, to help them out.
Why not visit those users' pages here at Community Central?
For 1 because I don't know them
For 2 there would be an accusation from Davidjimnez that I own that account.
For 3 I'd like to help them by not involving them too much into this current issue. They have nothing to do with it, they are only victims of the outcome.
I would like to inform you that while I do realize you're trying to help out here on Community Central, some of your messages come off as rude, and as you're not an administrator here, tend to be unnecessary.
If you would like to continue helping, that is fine. However, please cease posting messages that appear as if you are an admin here.
In the event you would like examples, feel free to ask. :)