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09:01, March 16, 2012
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Hello, Starfleet Academy. You have new messages at SpikeToronto's talk page.
Message added 03:34, March 16, 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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03:34, March 16, 2012
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09:09, February 17, 2012
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  Thanks RT! I was going to add a purge button. This will really help. :D
  Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 09:28, 17 Feb, 2012 UTC
  
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  09:28, February 17, 2012
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  Oh hell. It didn't work globally. Thanks for the thought but I'll just add a purge button tomorrow. (I can't be bothered fighting with placement tonight) :) Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 09:34, 17 Feb, 2012 UTC
  
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  Yeah, interwiki's tricky.
  
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  10:36, February 17, 2012
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  Ha ha! Isn't it just. But then again I didn't know that we could fetch even sub-pages from community central. Cool, but on the other hand all this stuff is much easier on Wikipedia since you don't have like 20-30 profiles to keep. XD
  Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 04:11, 18 Feb, 2012 UTC
  
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Rappy Rappy 4187

I edited to remove redundant code and took off 690 characters of code you didn't need. The two signatures are identical just MUCH less code added to every page you sign on. Please undo your undo of my edit.

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Edited by Rappy 4187 06:30, February 10, 2012
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- Rappy Rappy 4187
 
 Your signature was unchanged other than a huge drop in code. The signature is identical. The amount of space added to a page when you edit it is vastly different. I am in no way saying that you shouldn't use your signature. I was simply helping in streamlining it since I am fairly advanced in CSS code.
 As for your question on if someone were to edit my signature... I wouldn't have an issue at all if the edit was an improvement to what I already had (in which my edit was to your signature).
 Adding a signature that is 10x what you type on a page is really bad wiki etiquette.
 All in all, it's up to you to decide to keep the helpful change or not. The signature looks no different than it did before my edit but will upset a lot less people.
 
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 Edited by Rappy 4187 07:02, February 10, 2012
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 Starfleet AcademyHail my ship07:06, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 Starfleet AcademyHail my ship07:06, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 What's different? I don't see it.
 
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 07:06, February 10, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 I did start editing on your talk page before I got a notification. (Read your talk for more) I will say only this because I've got limited time: I didn't quite get it, but now I know how to template my sig. I still don't want your edits to my sig, please leave it alone. I made it from scratch myself! So if I keep your edits it's not mine. Am I making any sense? Anyway I will deal with all of this tomorrow - bye :)
 Starfleet AcademyHail my ship07:07, 10 Feb, 2012 UTC
 
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 07:07, February 10, 2012
- SpikeToronto
 
 You’re not really making any sense Starfleet. When you say that if you accept someone else’s edit, it makes the signature not your own, it sounds like you are saying you are not open to learning.
 Just the other day I updated my sig from old, deprecated  tags to up-to-date  tags. Then along came another editor (not Rappy) who saw where I could make the sig render the identical output, but with less code, and he unilaterally changed it thusly. I was mega-grateful for the learning opportunity, did not care one bit about his changing my sig, and thanked him very much for the fix.
 — Spike Toronto 09:25, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
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 Edited by SpikeToronto 09:26, February 10, 2012
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 Yeah, I keep forgetting about the font: slim-down. I could have knocked off even more code. :p
 
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 16:19, February 10, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 Hi guys, I haven't replied because sadly I couldn't get onto to Wikia yesterday. Though don't take this the wrong way, I wasn't so chopped up by this small issue I couldn't face you Rappy. I apologize for my unusual lack of control as well. I hope this doesn't make us foes.
 Right...
 Firstly Rappy, the signatures are not the same in IE9 at least. (I'll screen capture this in another post.) I can see now, that I just checked, there is no difference in Chrome, I exept that. But I only edit in IE so I can't use your changes Rappy. (Please don't start the whole debate on whether or not IE is the best.)
 Spike, I am very interested in learning things that are new. And I will be reviewing Rappy's edit. But I can't believe that neither of you seem to get that the problem is that I wasn't asked before the edit? I found this rude at the time and reacted accordingly. I'm not so blind now.
 Put yourself in my shoes: I was packing up my computer, checked the Emails quickly, and saw that someone had edited my signature. I was not informed as to the nature of "templating" a signature. Ha! I thought you were saying to type {{User:Starfleet Academy/Sig|~~~~~}} XD!! So you can imagine how confused I was when Godisme asked me to read his /Sig2 page, which I had already read. The penny dropped with a quite a sudden thud. I was sadly in too much of a rush to put douse the fire I'd started out of my own stupidity.
 I would rather that you don't edit my signature. It really isn't because I'm not interested in your input. To use my situation with JS tags as an example. I just see my signature as something that I can work on myself. This does involve stubbling apon new ideas from code that other users' have added to wikis or their own stuff.
 To be perfectly honest, I've currently got SpikeToronto's #time switch from ATW on my Fav bar waiting for me to look into it further. To end this ramble; I've been a more open person since joining Wikia a year (-10 days) ago. But I see I still need work. Shame I can't rewrite my own code XD
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 View the source! I've fixed my signature :D >>>>>
 
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 Edited by Starfleet Academy 06:39, February 12, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 Sigh, still issues. I fix this d**n thing in a mo.
 
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 06:33, February 12, 2012
- Rappy Rappy 4187
 
 Ah. I'd love to see what didn't work for you in IE9. I checked in Chrome and FF. Something in the code didn't like IE. A screenshot would be nice.
 
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 06:34, February 12, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 Here is IE's view of the signatures: [1] ;)
 
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 06:40, February 12, 2012
- Rappy Rappy 4187
 
 Yeah. I saw that with FF in one of my previews. IE really handles stuff oddly. That's probably why you needed the padding in your old one (which does NOTHING in FF/Chrome). You could probably alleviate that by adding in a line-height ONCE instead of using the padding though.
 
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 06:41, February 12, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 I see... well I'll get around to that soon. I'm more interested currently in why my sig won't display the timestamp anymore. See:
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 06:46, February 12, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 Sig test:
 Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 06:51, 12 Feb, 2012 UTC
 Wouldn't a preview on Message_Wall be good. Take a look at my long post's history above!!! XD
 
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 06:51, February 12, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 Yay!!!
 Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 06:52, 12 Feb, 2012 UTC
 
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 06:52, February 12, 2012
- SpikeToronto
 
 Starfleet, I guess it’s because I’ve come up in the collaborative wiki culture, where everyone edits everything, that it does not bother me when someone lends a hand. Even if, in the end, their edit was useless, so long as it was well-intentioned, I thank them for the effort. — Spike Toronto 06:53, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
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 Edited by SpikeToronto 07:00, February 12, 2012
- Rappy Rappy 4187
 
 Not everything anymore. You can't edit others' message wall entries.
 Anyways, glad you got it templating Starfleet.
 
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 Edited by Rappy 4187 06:56, February 12, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 Very true Spike... very true! And your right, I have been rude myself.
 I should have thanked you in one of my previous posts Rappy. I'm sure you spent some time on trying to get my signature streamlined, and just undid it all. I sadly can't just undo my undo, yet. But in reading your contribution it will expand my knowledge further I'm sure. See ya 'round guys! ;D
 Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 08:19, 12 Feb, 2012 UTC
 
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 08:19, February 12, 2012
- Rappy Rappy 4187
 
 Just an FYI.
 
 can be reduced even further to
 
 
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 Edited by Rappy 4187 18:39, February 14, 2012
- Starfleet Academy
 
 Yes I know. I might change that for the first box which has that, but like I said in the edit summary; I was spelling out some stuff just to keep it easy to follow. Not that my current version is any easier to follow than what your suggesting. I think it is probably harder to follow. Plus it's been a long time since I've had trouble following this kind of stuff (aka html, derrrr self). Oh did you note that I removed the padding and it works on dark wikis like Memory-Alpha (this is not just a link to MA, click and behold!) now. ;)
 PS Ah ha! I know why I did it that way, I was doing it quickly and thought that it was a three-sided box. How I managed to think that and end up with anything close to a signature...? I have no idea. XD
 Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 02:33, 15 Feb, 2012 UTC
 
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 02:33, February 15, 2012
- Rappy Rappy 4187
 
 Looks much better (code-wise) overall. Thanks for the improvements.
 
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 11:07, February 15, 2012
- SpikeToronto
 But, the code is still full of font tags. You mean there’s no way to shorten the code from this?! :O
 [[User:Starfleet Academy| Starfleet Academy ]][[User talk:Starfleet Academy| Hail my ship ]] {{{1| }}} 
 
 which produces: Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 12:20, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
 How about:
 — [[User:Starfleet Academy|Starfleet]][[User talk:Starfleet Academy|Academy]]
 
 which produces: — Starfleet Academy 12:37, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
 AND you can fit the entire code in the signature section at Special:Preferences.
 
 If you still want the background color, try this:
 — [[User:Starfleet Academy|Starfleet]][[User talk:Starfleet Academy|Academy]]
 
 which produces:
 — Starfleet Academy 12:37, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
 AND you can fit the entire code in the signature section at Special:Preferences.
 
 P.S. If Wikia would give us a Preview option on the MessageWall, I would not have had to save/edit this thing 30+ times! *grumble* — Spike Toronto 12:39, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
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- Starfleet Academy
 
 Thanks for the suggestions Spike, but I like the way my sig is currently. I was actually trying to get away from the "few links" look which had been my signature for an entire year. I know that you can use  to create font changes. But I decided to use  when I found out that those tags have been made obsolete, and we are not meant to use them anymore. Similar story with the <tt></tt> tags I've just used above. Maybe I'm just radical when I comes to coding... lol. I appreciate your concern for my signature, but I designed my sig with the borders. The font face was just one I came across and liked over the lovely, but hard to read Old English Text MT.
 Plus I have just set this thing up to run globally now, I'm not in a hurry to rip it back down again lol. :) Starfleet Academy Hail my ship 01:56, 16 Feb, 2012 UTC
 
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Please template your signature. Every time you sign, it adds over 600 characters of code to a page. See here for instructions on how to do so.

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06:19, February 10, 2012
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  Oh now I get it! I did read that page, but missed the importance. Will do tomorrow :)
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