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Once Wikia has NO users, they won't make a cent off of advertising, and even still, they'll realize that they can't push around like dictators when they have NO USERS!
Here's a new free wiki site to use until Wikia finally agrees to wise up and give what the users want:
Delete all your pages! No mercy was shown for your wiki! No mercy will be shown for Wikia!
They deserve everything they get!
Sascha Kreiger Contact 15:09, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- ...Or we could not do that. That's not really gonna solve anything, since it'll get undone and admin powers will be revoked. It will solve nothing.
Frank-West 15:10, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- For the deletions to have any impact, they need to be in effect long enough for google to see them - and that's not likely to happen. Bear in mind that Wikia has a record of demoting and blocking admins who are seen as vandalizing their wiki. However, you don't need to act as a vandal to starve Wikia of admins. --◄mendel► 15:15, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, you can just leave. That's what most of us are doing. If you don't update, and recreate your wiki somewhere else and you update that one, eventually the new wiki will be above the old one. Roxy13~Dad, I'm a fairy! 15:16, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Sascha keep in mind that Frank and myself are some of the strongest and most vocal critics of this new skin. So Frank's sound advice should be heeded. From what I understand there are a few admins who tried just what you suggest, and the deletions were reverted and the admin powers revoked just as Frank said.
- the options editors of a wiki have are this:
- Move to an alternative wiki listed at the Forum:Anti-Wikia (skin) Alliance.
- Invite new editors to this wiki.
- If you are an active editor in some of the big wikis, find the discussion about leaving, and encourage moving. This by far is the most effective strategy.
- The wikia staff negotiated with two huge wikias:
- Anno1404 15:27, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Re: WoWwiki, Wikia demoted the admins anyway (see wowwiki:Forum:Next steps for WoWWiki). So re: my earlier advice, while Wikia will punish vandalism, they won't treat good behaviour any different (eventually). Draw your own conclusions. --◄mendel► 16:44, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Wikia is for the Readers hmm... I wonder how long that last if all editors leave. Demoting Admins who disagree, many wiki's leaving. I wonder what it takes to bring Wikia down. And I do also wonder why there pussing Oasis if every one hates it. Yes I do wonder a lot. I mean who in there right mind gets the Idea of Removing the Talk pages. But than again what do I care. Guildwiki moves and I always hated the so called Improvements of Wikia. But I sure know that Deleting all pages isn't really an option. I prefer complaining AKA "Spamming the the crap out of them with my opinion about there precious Oasis until I get banned" But I still need to find the right place to do so and don't think this is the place. Anyways when Guildwikia moves my account will be deleted from Wikia and i couldn't care less. --
† F1© 22:48, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Wikki is nice idea, but as long as they dont provide Monaco skin, its no benefit, only a way of protest. Still, I fully support idea of leaving Wikia and I am glad to see my favorite WoWwiki did so. --TakeruDavis 08:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Never liked Wikia they made changes every time that got more irritating everytime. Glad Guildwiki is finely moving. Improvements my ass. Hope that they feel the pain when the big Wiki's move away -- † F1© 14:51, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Never liked Wikia they made changes every time that got more irritating everytime. Glad Guildwiki is finely moving. Improvements my ass. Hope that they feel the pain when the big Wiki's move away --
- Wikki is nice idea, but as long as they dont provide Monaco skin, its no benefit, only a way of protest. Still, I fully support idea of leaving Wikia and I am glad to see my favorite WoWwiki did so. --TakeruDavis 08:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Wikia is for the Readers hmm... I wonder how long that last if all editors leave. Demoting Admins who disagree, many wiki's leaving. I wonder what it takes to bring Wikia down. And I do also wonder why there pussing Oasis if every one hates it. Yes I do wonder a lot. I mean who in there right mind gets the Idea of Removing the Talk pages. But than again what do I care. Guildwiki moves and I always hated the so called Improvements of Wikia. But I sure know that Deleting all pages isn't really an option. I prefer complaining AKA "Spamming the the crap out of them with my opinion about there precious Oasis until I get banned" But I still need to find the right place to do so and don't think this is the place. Anyways when Guildwikia moves my account will be deleted from Wikia and i couldn't care less. --
- Re: WoWwiki, Wikia demoted the admins anyway (see wowwiki:Forum:Next steps for WoWWiki). So re: my earlier advice, while Wikia will punish vandalism, they won't treat good behaviour any different (eventually). Draw your own conclusions. --◄mendel► 16:44, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, you can just leave. That's what most of us are doing. If you don't update, and recreate your wiki somewhere else and you update that one, eventually the new wiki will be above the old one. Roxy13~Dad, I'm a fairy! 15:16, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- For the deletions to have any impact, they need to be in effect long enough for google to see them - and that's not likely to happen. Bear in mind that Wikia has a record of demoting and blocking admins who are seen as vandalizing their wiki. However, you don't need to act as a vandal to starve Wikia of admins. --◄mendel► 15:15, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Doesn't it make you wonder though - with all these objections it is quite clear that there is basically no support for this new look. So, why did they implement it then?... ;) To me it seems quite obvious that something that is not supported by your users and/or customers is not preferrable. Unless you wish to commit commercial suicide obviously. Then again, maybe that's just me. *grin* Ah well, I feel quite confident the Wikia team will 'get it' in due time. -- Kharay1977TC 23:08, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm just worried the Wikia team members who 'get it' will be laid off due to the blunder before they 'get it'. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5:49 PM PST 8 Nov 2010
- The thing is, if you look at their traffic, it hasn't decreased at all following the new skin. I dislike it as much as anyone (I've edited my global wikia.css to allow full width articles, it looks so much better even if it is 'illegal'), but if we all keep on visiting these wikis then what do they care. And even if everyone on this forum boycots the site and doesn't come here again it will barely scratch the surface of their traffic. They've lost respect, but they haven't fallen on their own sword. Sadly OllieMartin 09:47, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Compare their traffic to fallout.wikia.com, and you see that if you allow for the increase there due to a new sequel coming out, the pageviews have dropped some. It is still to early to say whether that's just a statistical fluctuation, though. I'd like to find a wiki that has completed its move to check; wowwiki is a bad example because it got an anomaly because of Blizzcon (presumably). --◄mendel► 01:15, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Actually if you look at wowwiki.com's traffic rank in the last 3 months it is actually trending slightly down which you would think wouldn't happen with BlizzCon having recently ended and Cataclysm just about to come out. Also, unlike most of the Wikia wikis, you can actually see WoWWiki's traffic rank without the mixing in of all the other Wikias. I'm not sure how you even separate out traffic data for fallout.wikia.com. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6:35 PM PST 9 Nov 2010
- One 'improvement' from the oasis/wikia update is the new statspage with a better break down and a list of wikis - http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiStats/activity (total pages includes deleted ones by the look,so is a bit missleading). it interesting to see were in the schem of thinks some of the well known wikis sit sorted by the diferent criteria. But the 'old' pageviews page on each wiki is still broken as mine has not updated since about july i think. - BulldozerD11 02:09, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
- The WikiStats/activity doesn't work for me, I press the button (having selected Gaming) and nothing happens.
- I'm using quantcast to look at the traffic data, and it does give traffic data for each of wikia's subdomains. --◄mendel► 13:32, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
- One 'improvement' from the oasis/wikia update is the new statspage with a better break down and a list of wikis - http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiStats/activity (total pages includes deleted ones by the look,so is a bit missleading). it interesting to see were in the schem of thinks some of the well known wikis sit sorted by the diferent criteria. But the 'old' pageviews page on each wiki is still broken as mine has not updated since about july i think. - BulldozerD11 02:09, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah - on central it only has one tab, but on my wiki it has several so try it from a individual wiki then (id not looked from here originally) ! But with quantcast you do get some nice graphs of traffic but it does not record editors numbers which can be found under wikia own stats & the quantcast traffic figures are for so many options + daily figures spike a lot. From looking at quantcast for a few well known wikis i noticed muppett wiki had dropped since the new skin, but several others were about level when averaged over a month, also some sites had a strange sharp drop a bit back as well. Could be interesting to compile a table for some well known wikis for last month, 6 months and a year ago say but using which traffic option - people, visits, page views or ? - BulldozerD11 18:47, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, ok, I see the data now.
- Remember that muppet wiki was the one that the skin was originally rolled out for at the beginning of October; their page views per person have dropped over 30% since then, which would seem to suggest that the skin does not only fail to appeal to editors (as evidenced by the blog posts), but to anonymous readers as well (contrary to what the test data led Wikia to expect). On twilightsaga.wikia.com , weekly and monthly page views per person are also dropping. --◄mendel► 11:57, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah - on central it only has one tab, but on my wiki it has several so try it from a individual wiki then (id not looked from here originally) ! But with quantcast you do get some nice graphs of traffic but it does not record editors numbers which can be found under wikia own stats & the quantcast traffic figures are for so many options + daily figures spike a lot. From looking at quantcast for a few well known wikis i noticed muppett wiki had dropped since the new skin, but several others were about level when averaged over a month, also some sites had a strange sharp drop a bit back as well. Could be interesting to compile a table for some well known wikis for last month, 6 months and a year ago say but using which traffic option - people, visits, page views or ? - BulldozerD11 18:47, November 10, 2010 (UTC)